Godly Parents Responses

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valign="top" height=400 BGCOLOR="#000000" TEXT="#F7F7FF"> <div> <I>Godly Parents Responses</I></div> <div> <IMG SRC="0d44d0c0.gif" border=0 width="589" height="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <B>"True friends are hard to come by...I need more money." </B></div> <bR> <div> <B>"My, this game does teach new words!"        Calvin and Hobbs</B></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="0d44d0c0.gif" border=0 width="589" height="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0099FF" FACE="Verdana" ><B>  If you would like your comments to be added to this list</B></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0099FF" FACE="Arial" ><B> </B></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0099FF" FACE="Papyrus" ><B>  </B></FONT><A HREF="comments.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Contact Us"><U><B>Contact Us</B></U></A><B>  </B><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#FF0000" FACE="Arial" ><B>   </B></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0099FF" FACE="Arial" ><B>     </B></FONT></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="0d44d0c0.gif" border=0 width="589" height="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="1ff8a6b0.gif" border=0 width="650" height="363" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div> <B>"We find  parts to be disturbing." </B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>"Please remove me from your bulk mailing list. We  DO NOT agree with a lot of your spiritual convictions. </B></div> <div> <B>One day we WILL give an account of how we treated GOD'S daughters. I don't want to be judged for treating any women like a slave put on the earth to serve a selfish MANkind."</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>"Our pastor says that </B><B><U>she</U></B><B> is ready to stone you!"</B></div> <bR> <div> <B>"You seem to be adopting a world view that is divergent from the world view I have been learning. As believers, we are not to withdrawal from the world, but rather to engage it for the glory of God and for the advancement of His Kingdom"</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>"You seem to be pointing out a dichotomy that I don't think exists. You speak of shielding your children from the evils of this world. It is true that the world is full of evil, but it is also true that you and I have evil in us. I know you think the church is full of sin (and I agree) but I would propose that we are all sinful as well. We can't set some kind of utopian family because there is too much sin in the parents and the children. It isn't "Church good, world bad" or "Godly family good, rest of world bad." There is good and bad everywhere; both in our families and in Bill Clinton's family! What we need to do is embrace what is good wherever we find it and reject what is evil wherever it is found. As Creed sings "With arms wide open, I'll show you everything." There is so much good, by God's common grace, that is still out in the world; I am more excited than I have ever been about having our children exposed to everything we can show them."</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>"We've always thought a part-time job would be beneficial in teaching both our sons and daughters responsibility"</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>"At what age are you hoping your children will marry? Is 15 or 16 about right?" </B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>"I am seriously considering sending our children to public high school.  I don't want to send them in grade school when they are so tender and impressionable.  I do want to find ways to get more involved in our community."</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>"We hope to make the point that while your ad was well-intended, it lacked a true element of grace. In a perfect world, perhaps these items would be possible or even beneficial, but Christ left us to minister in a very needy world. Keeping our selves and our families separate from those around us will keep us from ministering the gospel of Christ to those who need Him most. You may see elements of the Amish lifestyle that you admire, but how much of their actual lifestyle do you attempt to emulate? And would it be better to have your children married to a person of this group who lives a legalistic faith, or united to a person who lives a life of grace?"</B></div> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>"i was wondering if you could put me on your e-mail list.</B></div> <div> <B>i felt left out over christmas when everyone could gossip but me.</B></div> <div> <B>thanks."</B></div> <bR> <bR> <bR> <div> <B>  "I would have to say that your work is rife with theological error; possessing a narrow, works-based biblical world view with gnostic tendencies, leaving little room for the doctrines of grace, justification, and sanctification, assuming a person's faith and ability to follow Christ is based on how his parents conducted their lives, and judging parents who did not follow your strict orthodoxies as spiritually immature at best, and awash with carnality at worst.  What I am addressing here is an apparent lack of the basic understanding of some of the doctrines of the faith, as expressed in our church's writings, and taught by our leaders."</B></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="0d44d0c0.gif" border=0 width="589" height="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <bR> <div> <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0099FF" FACE="Papyrus" ><B>My Response to the Responses-  </B></FONT><A HREF="id62.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Godly Parents with Footnotes"><U><B>Godly Parents with Footnotes</B></U></A><B> </B></div> <bR> <div> <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0099FF" FACE="Papyrus" ><B>To Continue on-</B></FONT><B>  </B><A HREF="id44.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="The Cesspool Theory"><U><B>The Cesspool Theory</B></U></A></div> <bR> <div> <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#0099FF" FACE="Papyrus" ><B>If you have any comments-</B></FONT><FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#FFCC66" FACE="Papyrus" ><B> </B></FONT><A HREF="id98.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="OffensiveBuletin Board"><U><B>OffensiveBuletin Board</B></U></A></div> <div> <FONT SIZE="3" COLOR="#FFCC66" FACE="Papyrus" ><B>                                                          </B></FONT><A HREF="comments.htm" TARGET="_top" TITLE="Contact Us"><U><B>Contact Us</B></U></A></div> <bR> <div> <IMG SRC="0d44d0c0.gif" border=0 width="589" height="12" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0"></div> <div>       </div> <div> <B>     </B></div> <div> <TABLE BORDER="2" CELLPADDING="2" CELLSPACING="1" WIDTH="586" BORDERCOLORLIGHT="#C0C0C0" BORDERCOLORDARK="#808080" FRAME="BOX" RULES="ALL" ALIGN="BOTTOM" HSPACE="0" VSPACE="0" > <tR> <tD VALIGN=TOP HEIGHT= 152 WIDTH="574"><div> Question of Legalism</div> <div>      "Whenever we deal with specific points of obedience as I am going to take the risk in doing we are in danger of sounding "legalistic." Jesus said (John 14:15), "If you love Me, keep My commandments." This is not legalism. True legalism is thinking I can somehow earn God's grace. We cannot add a single thing to what Jesus already accomplished through His death on the cross in purchasing our salvation. But when Christians purpose to obey the Lord explicitly they are often accused of legalism."                  Jonathan Lindvall</div> </tD> </tR> </TABLE></div> <bR> </td> </tr></table></body>