ROSE FAMILY ASSOCIATION NATIONWIDE

HISTORY OF THE ORGANIZATION: The quarterly Rose Family Bulletin, published since 1966, and the Association Newsletter, (published 1980-1999 and now combined with the Rose Family Bulletin), are full of Rose family information including wills, war files, biographies, census, marriages, photos, queries, war rosters, manuscript items, news items, obituaries, membership lists, lineages, etc. Editor is Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG with Seymour T. Rose, Associate Editor, founders of the organization. They have devoted forty years to searching the Rose families of the United States, all nationalities. Members of the Association can receive both publications, making a total of eight publications a year.

MASTER INDEX: The Association maintains a huge master index of Rose records and many photocopies of original documents including Bible records, pension files, wills, deeds, marriages, family records, etc. A most unique surname collection - over 900,000 Rose records in the Association's files. Editors have also personally researched in many Courthouses, and make data available through Courthouse reports. There is no charge for editors to look up information from the voluminous Rose records. If it is determined that there is a research report available on the family, a quote will be given advising of the cost of the report (which range from $12.00 to $20.00 depending upon the family). The queriest can then decide whether to obtain it. There is never any obligation to obtain a report.

ROSE FAMILY BULLETIN: This quarterly magazine has been published since 1966. It contains various important items for Rose research such as marriages, census records, biographies, estate abstracts, military files, queries, new members, lineages of members, photographs of Roses, Bible records, and much more. As an example:

Table of Contents June 2000 issue:

4360
 Samuel Adam Burney Rose, C.W., Scrappy Fighter, with photo 4385
 Dear Readers 4387
Additions to Robert & Margery Rose family of Connecticut 4388
Wolfe Co., Ky. Cemetery at the Baptist Church 4388
Nina Rose with photo 4388
Knox Co., Ky. Order Book 4388
William Oberst Rose Dies 4388
Elisha Rose Family of Indiana and New York 4389
Nathaniel Rose, 1739 Guilford, Connecticut Probate 4389
Phoebe McCullah Crutchfield & Delia Lawson McCullah, with photo 4389
William H. Rose, obit., Greene Co., Illinois 4390
Hiram Rose, Civil War Union military record 4390
Dr. Linwood H. Rose, president of James Madison Univ., with photo 4390
Daniel Rose, Civil War Union pension abstract, of Missouri and Illinois 4390
David Rose, Civil War Union pension abstrct, of Cambria Co., Pennsylvania 4391
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 1855 City Directory listings for Rose 4392
Abraham Rose of Ontario and Suffolk Co., New York, Regular Army papers 4392
Harry and Dorothy Rose, celebrating 50 yeaers, with photo 4392
Oak Grove Cemetery, Branch Co., Wisconsin, Rose listings 4393
Grundy Co., Illinois, Grantor Index for Rose 4394
Henry Arnold Rose, auction sale notice 4394
Robert E. Rose, D.d.S., Kentucky, Illinois, Iowa, Idaho, biography 4395
Missouri Elizabeth Rose, desc. of Tormut Rose of Block Isl., Rhode Island, photo 4395
Some Elderly Rose (obituaries of several Roses over age of 70) 4396
Maude Maergella Rose aged about 5 mos., early photo 4396
Mary Alice Colson and W. E. Rose, descendants of Ezekiel Rose of Pa., obituaries 4396
Letter from Maine 1870 Eliska K. Rose family 4397
Lawrence Co., Indiana Deed Index for Rose 4397
Susan Martha Rose, dau. of Benjamin of Macon Co., Missouri, photo 4397
About Our Members - photo of Bonnie and Troy Rose, and bios of others 4398
The Family Tree - lineages of several members 4399
P. R. Rose, obit., Joplin, Missouri 4399
John Marsh Rose, photo of g.s., grandson of Dempsey Rose of Missouri 4399
Rose of Wollin, Pomerania - book announcement 4401
From the Mail Bag 4401
1880 Soundex of Illinois, 6th installment 4402
New Members, and Queries 4405
Index 4406
Queries, con't. 4409

NOTE: Membership in the Rose Family Association is by calendar year, and includes the quarterly Rose Family Bulletin. Go to: Rose membership Application Form.

 

FAMILY REPORTS: The Association has available over 200 compiled family reports. These reports usually cover 3-5 generations of the family, and include all the known information. they are not family sheets; they are compiled abstracts from such items as wills, deeds, civil records, census, military files, tombstones, federal land records, etc. Very often they include information obtained by editors from personal trips to the courthouses, as well as records of descendants. These valuable reports are listed in the Catalog which is available for 75¢ (coin or stamp acceptable) from the Association. The price of the reports usually range from $12.00 to $20.00, depending upon the size of the report. Let us know the family you seek, and we will advise you whether we have a report available. (No obligation!)

COURTHOUSE REPORTS: Editors have been to over 500 courthouses, and offer Courthouse research reports from many of them. These listings are now available on this website, with a further description.

ACTIVITIES: In addition to the quarterly publicaton, the Association has published two major Rose genealogies, six booklets on Rose, and has available Rose census records (from 1790-1850), Rose Family Research Reports on many different Rose families, and Courthouse Research Reports of Rose records of Rose records. Other books are in progress.

ASSISTANCE: All inquiries are answered. Assistance and suggestions are given by mail after examining the huge "master index" if details are provided on the earliest known Rose of the querist's family. Contact the Association either by mail at 1474 Montelegre Dr., San Jose, CA 95120 or email to Christine4Rose@cs.com. When emailing directing to the Rose Family Association about a Rose, please include dates/approximate dates for the Rose in question, counties and states in which the family lived, names of brothers and sisters of the earliest known Rose if known, etc. This will assist us in finding the person requested. Also, please include your full name and U.S. postal address when emailing to the Association, as all inquiries are filed by addresses. This assists the Association in being able to keep track of the inquiries and responses.

FORUM: The Association does not maintain a forum, but suggests the use of GenForum's Rose page for posting of queries on Rose. The Association does answer some (but not all) of the queries posted to GenForum . If you wish a direct answer from the Association, please email to the Association directly at: Christine4Rose@cs.com.

CATALOG: A Catalog is available listing close to 300 family reports, about 200 Courthouse reports, a full listing of census records available on Rose, and a listing of all the Rose books. It also includes the other publications by the Association. The catalog is available for 75 cents (to cover printing and postage) by writing to the address below and enclosing 75 cents (stamps acceptable).

ROSE FEATURE: We will include a "Rose Feature" on the website - changing it periodically. The Rose features will include interesting Rose biographies. We also have available the Rose Revolutionary Pension Index for Rose.

Recently added was a listing of Courthouse reports. Other Rose items will be added; check back with us periodically.

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    The following are links to other websites; they are not part of the website of the Rose Family Association.

    The following Forum exchanges considerable Rose queries.

    GenForum   Click on the highlighted GenForum to take you to their Rose page. If you wish to access their homepage to check other surname too, go to: http://www.genforum.com. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS NOT A FORUM OF THE ROSE FAMILY ASSOCIATION. It is however a forum where all those tracing Rose can send and exchange email messages on their Roses, and some (but not all) messages posted to that site are also answered by the Rose Family Association. If you wish to send an email inquiry on your Rose specifically to the Rose Family Association, send it directly to: Christine4Rose@cs.com

    Kilravock Castle at Croy, Scotland - An interesting website which includes information on the Clan, accommodations, how to contact them, etc.

    Clan Rose Society   For the address of the representative of this Scottish Clan society.

    The following two are included as examples of what can be done with a Rose website.

    George Rose   A Canadian/Scottish family with interesting illustrations.

    Robert Rose of Edgecombe Co., N.C. (by Doug Rose)  For a sample of what you can do by creating your own Rose website. See also the site of Vicky Sykes, another descendant of this same Robert Rose family which includes interesting Rose data and photos including information on the Reuben Rose cemetery (by James S. Rose) - available at Vicky Sykes page.

    Cyndi's List   For the website of Cyndis's list, containing over 27,000 links to genealogy sites.

       



    ROSE FAMILY ASSOCIATION MEMBERSHIP

    Open to anyone who has an interest in any Rose, any nationality.

    SUBSCRIBING MEMBERSHIP: $20.00 ($23.00 Canada) includes the quarterly Rose Family Bulletin.

    CONTRIBUTING MEMBERSHIP: $22.00 ($25.00 Canada) includes all issues, and a contribution to postage so that the Association can continue to help those seeking their Rose ancestors.

    SUSTAINING MEMBERSHIP: Š$26.00 ($27.00 Canada) includes all issues and sustains the organizational effort on research by helping with funds for preserving and publishing the data.

    SPOUSE: $2.00. Add to membership above for spouse membership.  

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    Make checks payable to: Rose Family Association. IMPORTANT: For membership dues outside of United States, write to the Rose Family Association or email for information on the overseas membership dues. The completed membership form cannot be emailed as we are not set up to accept credit cards. It should be sent to the Association at the mailing address Šbelow, together with check.

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    ROSE BOOKS

    The following books have been compiled by Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG.

    DESCENDANTS OF ROBERT ROSE OF BRANFORD AND WETHERSFIELD, CONNECTICUT, WHO CAME ON THE SHIP FRANCIS IN 1634 FROM IPSWICH, ENGLAND, 1983. The largest of all Rose families of the U.S. Contains many records from war files, census, Bibles, biographies, photos, probates, etc. Anyone with unidentified Roses should examine this book. Ten generations on some branches included. Hard cover, illus., fully indexed, pp. xvi, 512. Price: $38.50

    ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS OF REV. ROBERT ROSE AND REV. CHARLES ROSE OF SCOTLAND AND COLONIAL VIRGINIA, with information on their brothers Patrick, James, Hugh, George, Alexander and John, 1985. This is a full genealogy of the well-known and prominent Rose family of Virginia. Rev. Robert Rose became one of the great planters of colonial Virginia. Includes parish register records from Scotland, and many important documents on this family. Seven generations on some branches. Hard cover, fully indexed, illus., pp. xiv., 318. Price $25.00

    The two books above were the recipient of the prestigious

    Donald Lines Jacobus award

       

    ADDITIONAL ROSE BOOKS/BOOKLETS

    Also available from the Rose Family Association, compiled by Christine Rose, the following researching books, fully indexed.

    ROSE WAR FILES: VOL. I. LAND BOUNTY ABSTRACTS. 1997. Over 400 files abstracted for land bounty based on War of 1812, Indian, ŠMexican and other early wars, many containing extremely information on marriages, Bibles, etc. These valuable files give a wealth of clues. Fully indexed both by name and locality. $13.50

    ROSE WAR FILES: VOL. II. ABSTRACTS OF REVOLUTIONARY PENSION FILES FOR ROSE. 85 pg. 1996. ŠFully indexed both by name and locality. $11.00

    ABSTRACTS OF EARLY VIRGINIA ROSE ESTATES: Wills, Inventories & Administrator's Bonds Before 1850, 48 pp., 1972. Fully indexed. $10.00

    ANDREW ROSE FAMILY OF BUCKS CO., PA. AND MERCER CO., PA.: The First Five Generations in America, 81 pp., 1977. Fully indexed. $10.00

    ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS OF FREDERICK ROSE OF WAYNE AND HARDIN COS., TENN., ORANGE CO., N.C. AND SUSSEX CO., VA., 2nd ed., rev. and enlarged, 92, x. pp., photos. Fully indexed. $13.00

     
     
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    To the left is Kilravock Castle, home of the Roses for many centuries. Members of the Rose Family Association have made three group trips there, in 1982, 1992 and 1997. This view is from the front of the Castle.

    SCARCE ROSE BOOK AVAILABLE IN REPRINT

    FAMILY OF ROSE OF KILRAVOCK [SCOTLAND] 1290-1847. Reprint of the scarce edition compiled by Hew Rose, extended by Rev. Lachlan Shaw, originally published Edinburgh 1848. It is a fascinating and unique history of the Scottish Rose family, and includes some references to lines that came into America. (Rev. Robert Rose of Virginia for instance is descended from the 8th Baron of Kilravock; various other Scottish immigrants are connected.) Though the Rose Family Association traces Roses of all nationalities, the Scottish family with their long line from Kilravock and their history as a peaceful clan fascinates all by the name. pp. ix, 531. $25.00.

    Shipping/handling charges added. To order, use the order form.

    OTHER BOOKS
     

      The following three are not ROSE books, but have also been compiled by Christine Rose.

    NICKNAMES: PAST PRESENT. Hundred of names fully cross-referenced. This popular booklet has solved many puzzles for researchers. 3rd ed. revised and enlarged, 1998. Includes appendixes of Dutch to English given name, and English to Dutch. and new appendixes on superscripted names, and some given names used for both males and females. $7.25

    FAMILY ASSOCIATIONS: ORGANIZATION AND MANAGEMENT, a Handbook. Everything to get you going from preliminaries, record keeping, publishing a Newsletter, the Family Gathering, sample By-laws and much more. 2nd ed. revised and enlarged 1995. $12.75

    DECLARATIONS OF INTENTION OF SANTA CLARA CO., CALIF. (1850-1870). Includes all the pertinent information from the declaration. Fully indexed. 1990. $9.50

     

    The following is an important reprint published by the Rose Family Assn.

    THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES PRELIMINARY INVENTORY OF THE LAND ENTRY PAPERS OF THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE (PI 22), by Harry P. Yoshpe and Philip P. Brower. Long out of print, it has been completely typeset from the original typewritten copy in this new edition. These records, housed at the Suitland branch of the National Archives for years, have now been moved to downtown D.C. The certainty of increased use has motivated the republication of this important aid. $14.75.  

     

    EXCITING GUIDEBOOK AVAILABLE

    by Christine Rose, CG, CGL, FASG and Kay Germain Ingalls, CGRS
    THE COMPLETE IDIOT'S GUIDE TO GENEALOGY.

    This new guidebook published by Simon & Schuster (Macmillan) was published fall of 1997. It is full of tips on how to start your search, expanding the search, how to make the most of libraries and archives, and using other sources. Census records, military records, organizing the records, taking the research trip to the family's hometown, doing it right, citing the records, historical perspective, resolving descrepancies - these and many other topics are presented in an easy to follow format. ŠThe appendixes include forms to record the information, census forms, interview questions, and other important aids. Price $17.95

    ORDER INFORMATION FOR BOOKS
     

    You may send your order by mail by listing the books, and postage, and including 7 3/4% sales tax if you are a California resident. Mail the list with your check to the Rose Family Association's mailing address. Or, if you prefer, click for a handy BOOK ORDER FORM which you can print out.

    SHIPPING: Add $3.50 for the first book, and $1.50 for each additional book ordered at the same time.
    SPECIAL NOTE: If ordering ONLY the Nicknames booklet, only add $1.50 postage.

    Books available

    • Robert Rose of Wethersfield, Conn. and England $38.50
    • Rev. Robert Rose of Virginia $25.00
    • Early Virginia Rose Estates $10.00
    • Andrew Rose Family of Pa. $10.00
    • Frederick Rose of Tenn., N.C. and Va. 2nd ed. $13.00
    • Rose War Files Vol. I, Bounty Land Files $13.50
    • Rose War Files Vol. II, Rev. Pension files $11.00 Family of Rose Š of Kilravock, Scotland $25.00
    • Nicknames: Past & Present, 3rd ed. $7.25
    • Family Associations: Organization & Management, 2nd ed. $12.75
    • Declarations of Intention (1850-1870) Santa Clara Co., Calif. $9.50
    • Preliminary Inventory Land-entry Papers of General Land Office $14.75
    • The Complete Idiot's Guide to Genealogy $17.95  
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    FEATURE No. 1

    We will from time to time include a short "feature" of an interesting Rose person or event.

    Louis Moses Rose
    of the Alamo
     


    Did Col. Travis, in those last days of the Alamo, actually give the moving speech which is attributed to him? Did he in fact draw a line, asking those who were willing to die to cross it? Yes, according to the survivor of the Alamo, Louis Moses Rose. ŠIt was he who related the infamous speech made by Travis in those final days of the siege.

    Considerable has been written about Louis Moses Rose, known as Moses Rose. One interesting article by L. P. Teer, "Was There a Coward in the Alamo?" was published in the Frontier Times, Nov. 1965, Vol. 39 No. 6 pp. 14-16, 54-55. Though for many years there was controversy about the facts, an excellent article by R. B. Blake put the matter to rest. Titled "A Vindication of Rose and His Story," it appeared in the Shadow of History, Texas Folk-Lore Society Publications No. XV, J. Frank Dobie et al editors, (Austin: Texas Folk-Lore Society, 1939), pp. 39-41. It included accepted court testimony by Rose given in the settlement of the estates of others who had been at the Alamo.

    According to Teer's account, Louis Moses Rose, was born in France in 1785. He served in Napoleon's army, and was later involved in a plot to restore Napoleon. The plot having failed, he was expelled from France and emigrated to the United States. He made his way to Texas, and in 1826 was a part of a company commanded by Hayden Edwards, who wrested the town of Nacogdoches from Mexican control. Rose decided to stay in Nacogdoches, and carried mail on a private contract between there and Natchitoches, Louisiana. Being of an adventureous nature, in 1832 he joined another Texas revolutionary army and was placed under the command of Colonel James Bowie. He again marched to capture Nacogdoches from the Mexicans. After the victory, the town was wild with joy and admiration, and Moses Rose found himself now a prominent citizen of the town, as well as a close friend of Jim Bowie. This friendship is what would later bring him to the Alamo.

    Rose then returned to domestic life, and remained a bachelor. He acquired land in 1834 but was not destined to enjoy it for more than a brief time.

    In 1835, when the call was made for Texans to enlist in an army to drive the Mexican army from San Antonio, Rose made plans to join the action. He left his belongings, and joined his old commander, James Bowie, marching with him to the Alamo.

    The account of the Alamo, and of Travis' speech with the subsequent drawing of the line, are well-known. Less known is that Rose was the only one to remain on the other side of the line. Seeing him still standing, Bowie asked his old friend, "'You seem not to be willing to die with us, Rose.' " '' 'No,' " stumbled Rose, 'I'm not ready to die and will not if I can avoid it.' '' To this Davey Crockett replied, " 'You may as well conclude to die with us, old man, for escape is impossible.' " But escape he did, in the darkness of the night, over the wall and into the prickly pear from which effects he never did fully recover. For the next few days he stayed in various deserted cabins, and finally made his way to one that was inhabited. There he told his story, and was invited to stay, though they were unable to assist with the wounds he had received from the thorns. He finally made his way to the home of an old friend, Abraham Zuber, and there he received his first real care. And it was to this family that he first related all the details of the last days of the Alamo. They were fascinated, and months later when their son William returned from the Army, he was told and recorded it, leaving the Šfirst written record.

    Rose stayed with the Zubers for a short time, and then returned to Nacogdoches. He found he was not welcome. "Remember the Alamo" rung in everyone's ears, and when they recalled their dead, Rose was remembered as a betrayer for not sticking with those brave men during their final days.

    The last few years of Rose's life were spent with the lingering contempt of those who knew him. Some referred to him as "Luesa," for his supposed lack of courage. Within a few years he died. The question was never resolved: was Louis Moses Rose really Ša coward? Or, did this man who had served with Napoleon, entered the service in the United States to serve not once but three times for Texas, simply decide to take his chances rather than die a certain death.

    [The first published account of Rose's story appears in the Texas Almanac for 1873, written by W. P. Zuber, a member of the family who had befriended Rose after the Alamo. He gives the text of Travis' speech, as verbally given to Abraham Zuber by Moses Rose. For many years there was doubt about the veracity of the story, particularly since the first published account was not for many years after the death of Moses Rose. But subsequent research by R. B. Blake, published first in an article "The Escape of Rose from the Alamo," Southwestern Historical Quarterly, Vol. 1 (July 1901): 1-11, concluded that Rose did indeed escape. This was followed in 1939 by R. B. Blake's "A Vindication of Rose and His Story," as previously mentioned. His research proved that Rose gave testimony in several court cases in which Rose confirms that he was unmarried, and in which he gave testimony to establish the death of a number of those who were at the Alamo in the final days of the siege. This testimony was accepted unchallenged.

    For an account of James Madison Rose who did not survive the Alamo, see Feature 2.

     
    Feature No. 2
     

    The Rose Who Lost his Life at the ŠAlamo

    James Madison Rose, nephew of President James Madison

    In Feature No. 1 on Louis Moses Rose, it is recounted how this Frenchman survived the Alamo by escaping over the wall during the final days of the siege. But there was another Rose there, son of Dr. Robert Henry and Frances (Madison) Rose, and nephew of President James Madison. His mother was the president's sister. The young James was a great-grandson of Rev. Robert Rose, the noted clergyman Šof Morayshire, Scotland and Essex and Albemarle Counties, Virginia who arrived in Virginia in the 1720s.

    Because of his presence at the Alamo in the final days, James Madison Rose unwittingly became entangled in a controversy that was to last over a half of a century. He did serve, and died with the others in the final days of the siege. The monument erected later correctly identifies him among the dead, listing him as J. M. Rose. However, before court testimony proved that the Frenchman Louis Moses Rose escaped, there were disbelievers who claimed that the monument had been incorrectly inscribed, and that it should have read ''L. M. Rose`` for Louis Moses Rose, instead of J. M. Rose.

    Years later, (as the Feature No. 1 above described), court testimony proved that Louis Moses Rose did indeed survive. And, a remarkable document signed by his brothers in 1853, prove that the president's young nephew lost his life with Bowie, Crockett and the other brave men in the fall of the Alamo.

  • We do hereby Certify that Our Brother James M Rose at the time he left Lake Providence in the winter of 1835 - by the Way of Alexandria Louisiana on his route to Nacogdoches Texas where he joined the Company of David Crocket in the Military service of Texas and was afterwards killed at the fall of the Alamo according to the best of our recollection was a man of Sangam--? temperment about thirty years of age but under--? sallow by Continual attacks of Chill & fever before he went to Texas, was partially bald on the loss of the head, had Sandy Eyes light Blue or Grey, Broad shouldered inclined to round and would weigh when in flesh about One hundred & sixty pounds - was apt to stammer when at all Confused with Eye Brows heavy and light Coloured - and course features - In Testimony whereof we have here unto set our hands & seals this 24th day of October 1853
    Hugh F. Rose
    Erasmus T. Rose Saml Rose
    State of Tennessee Tipton County Personally appeared before me William B. Russell an acting justice of the peace in & for said County Hugh F. Rose Erasmus T. Rose and Saml J Rose with whom I am personally acquainted and made oath that the facts set forth in the above Certificate are true to the best Š of their knowledge and recollection. W. B. Russell (JP) Sworn to and Subscribed before me this Oct 24th 1853  
  • The above affidavit was made to establish land bounty claims. A series of these claims granted to heirs of James M. Rose large amounts of land in Montgomery County, Gray County, and other Texas counties. The grants were recorded as late as 1936.

    [References: General Land Office, Austin, Texas, R. No. 8 Reg. No. 39819. A detailed genealogy of the Rev. Robert Rose family of Scotland and Virginia, from which James Madison Rose descended, The Brothers Rev. Robert Rose and Rev. Charles Rose of Colonial Virginia and Wester Alves, Morayshire, Scotland, by Christine Rose, (San Jose: Braun-Brumfield, 1985), pp. 177-180)

    See the Rose book page for details.

     
     

    Revolutionary Pension Index

    for ROSE
    Copyright 1996, Christine Rose


    [The following is from the Introduction of Rose War files Vol. II: Abstracts of Revolutonary War Pension and Bounty-Land Warrant Application Files for surname Rose, by Christine Rose, (San Jose, Calif.: Rose Family Assn., 1996.]

    A list of all the Revolutionary War Pension and Bounty-land Warrant Application Files for Rose that are contained in ŠNational Archives microfilm publication M-804. The first service pension act was Špassed by Congress in 1818. Before that, pensions were generally awarded based on the disability or death of a serviceman.

    The provisions of the act of 1818 granted pensions to those in financial need. The resulting flood of applications forced Congress in 1820 to enact remedial legislation. In 1820 a new law required every pensioner receiving payments under the act of 1818, or any future applicant, to submit a certified schedule of his estate and income. As a result, within a few years the pension roll was reduced by several thousand. An act approved 1 May 1823 resulted in the restoration of a number of pensions to those who had their names removed under the act of 1820, but who subsequently had proved their need of assistance.

    On 15 May 1828 another service-pension act was enacted. It granted full pay for life to surviving officers and enlisted men of the Revolutionary War who were eligible for benefits under the terms of a Continental Congress resolution of 15 May 1778, as amended.

    On 7 June 1832 a more liberal pension act was enacted, and extended to additional persons the provisions of the act of 1828. Every officer or enlisted man who had served at least two years in the Continental Line or State troops, volunteers or militia, were eligible for a pension of full pay for life. Naval and marine officers and enlisted men were also included. Veterans who had served less than the two years but longer than six months were eligible for a reduced pension. Neither the act of 1832 nor the act of 1828 included a provision based upon financial need.

    Other acts were passed involving the widows of soldiers. Initially a widow could under certain circumstances and provisions receive one half pay. Later, by an act 4 July 1836, certain widows of revolutionary veterans were permitted to apply. Certain conditions applied. Another act 7 July 1838 granted 5-year pensions to widows whose marriages had taken place before 1 January 1794. These pensions were continued under subsequent acts. On 29 July 1848 Congress provided life pensions for widows of veterans who were married before 2 January 1800. All restrictions pertaining to the date of marriage were removed by acts of 3 February 1853 and 28 February 1855. On 9 March 1878, widows of Revolutionary War soldiers who had served for as little as fourteen days, or were in any engagement, were declared eligible for life pensions.

    Bounty land was promised to soldiers of the Revolutionary war under a 1776 resolution of the Continental Congress. Subsequent acts awarded the land and required application for benefits. Many of these files were destroyed in subsequent fires in 1800 and 1814. In later years, extant bounty land papers were combined with the pension files and comprises the body of the collection microfilmed as M-804. If the papers were among those destroyed, a cross reference was created and includes the notation, "No Papers. "

    M-804, the National Archives microfilm publication which reproduces the extant application files, contains both Selected and Non Selected papers. When writing to the National Archives Šfor a copy of a file, only Selected papers are sent. However, the Non Selected papers Šcan contain valuable additional data. They often also include letters written by interested descendants in the 1920s or 1930s. When possible, examine M-804 for the complete file. If you wish to examine a book of all the abstracts based on an examination of the complete files, look for Christine Rose's Rose War Files Vol. II (as previously mentioned) in your library. If not available there, you can order a copy of the book (see Rose Books) from the Rose Family Association.

    The following index has been annotated with information from the file.

    ROSE
    ABNER ROSE. Mass. widow Abigail Stebbins.W15276.
    ABRAHAM ROSE. Mass. widow Deziah, lived Hillsborough Co., NH, Bible record shows ch. Anna Howland, Gideon, Catharine, Patty, Brackley, Pamela, Abraham Jr., Deziah Jr., and included other Bible records of Rose. W24780.
    ABRAHAM ROSE. R.I., BLWt. 3453. Iss. 4/16/1790. Papers missing: Card shows land bounty issued Apr. 16, 1790, Priv., R.I., #3453. Nothing further in the file.
    ALBERT ROSE. N.Y. BLWt.7692. Iss. 12/5/1791. Papers missing: Issued to Albert Rosa, assignee.
    ALEXANDER ROSE. BLWt. 1863-300. No papers. Issued Mar. 3, 1791. Papers issued. [In his military file there are a number of payroll and muster roll papers, showing that Alexander Rose was Capt. in 6th Va. Reg. commanded by Col. John Gibson. Dates of rolls 1777-1778.]
    AMOS ROSE. S33607, Mass., b. Granville, MA, mentions 2 ch: Charles & Delia, lived Morris Co., NJ.
    ANDREW ROSE. N.Y., BLWt. 7668. Issued 7/24/1790 to John Lawrence, assne. No papers.
    ARCHIBALD ROSE. Va. BLWt. 12500. Issued 4/12/1792 to Francis Graves, assne. No papers.
    ARCHIBALD ROSE. Va. S39046. Lived Norfolk Co., VA.
    BENJAMIN ROSE. Mass. S28858. Born Wollwich, ME, bro. John of Kennebec Co., ME. Soldier lived in Bangor ME & Somerset Co., ME.
    BENJAMIN ROSE. N.Y. R8998. Born Dutchess Co., NY, lived Ontario, Rensselaer, Schoharie & Otsego Cos., NY, had Šsister Katharine Cronkhite.
    BENJAMIN B. ROSE. Va., Sea Service, widow Susannah. W11162. BLWt. 43522-160-55. Wife was Susannah Rutherford; he was b. Charles Co., MD, lived King George Co., VA, m. in Garrard Co., KY, lived Mercer Co., KY, widow lived Johnson Co., IN.
    CHARLES ROSE. widow Rebecca. R9010. Lived Hunterdon Co., NJ, widow lived Fayette Co., PA. [Other records indicate he lived in Monongalia Co., VA (now WV) for many years before his death.]
    CHARLES ROSE. widow Lucinda. W816. BLWt. 26292-160-55. Wife was Lucinda Goins. He was b. King George Co., VA, lived Fayette & Gallatin Cos., KY.
    CORNELIUS ROSE. Green Mtn. Boys, N.Y. Sarah Whaley/Waley, former widow. W19623. His widow m. Elias Whaley. He lived Rensselaer Co., NY, widow lived Albany Co., NY.
    DAVID ROSE. Pa. S22959. Born Philadelphia, lived Delaware Co., PA.
    ELIJAH ROSE. Mass. BLWt. 4929-100. Issued 4/13/1789. No papers. Papers missing. Elijah Rose, Sergeant, Mass. Line, Warrant No. 4929 issued 13 Apr. 1798. No further.
    ELIJAH ROSE. Mass. S43945. ELISHA ROSE. Cont. Mass. S43960. Served from Granville, MA, lived Essex Co., NY.
    ENOCH ROSE. Mass. BLWt. 1198-100. Lived Granville, MA, m. Lydia, she m. Jesse Wolcut; widow lived W. Springfield, MA.
    EVERT ROSE. N.Y. W22126. widow Margaret. He was b. Ulster Co., NY, lived Tompkins Co., NY, Bible record incl. ch. Hanah, Sarah, Cornely, Cornely again, Polley and [Olive?].
    GAD ROSE. S17657. Born Granville, MA, lived Hartford Co., CT, bro. Justus Rose. Levi Rose was mentioned.
    GEORGE ROSE. W5716. Va. widow Dicy. Lived Essex Co., VA, widow lived King & Queen Co., VA.
    GEORGE ROSE. Va. R8999. Resided Loudoun Co., VA, Grant Co., KY. Son Francis Rose mentioned.
    ISAAC ROSE. Md. widow Margaret. W3721. Continental. Enl. Harford Co., MD, lived Mercer Co., PA.
    ISAAC ROSE. Va. S39053. Lived Culpepper & Stafford Cos., VA.
    ISAAC ROSE. Va. W5713. Married Margaret, ch. mentioned: James, Hannah, Ezekiel, Charles, Amelia. He lived Braxton, Nicholas, Allegheny & Bath Cos., VA.
    JACOB ROSE. N.Y. widow Lisa/Lizza. W4578. Married Lisa Bowker, lived tompkins, Ulster, Tioga & Cayuga Cos., NY, Delaware Co., Ohio, s/o Wm. & Elizabeth (Schoolcraft) Rose of Germany and Schoharie Co., NY. Extensive Bible records in this file.
    JACOB ROSE. N.Y. former widow Jane Woodcock. R11811. She m. 2nd, John Woodcock, widow lived Tioga Co., NY.
    JAMES ROSE. N.Y. BLWt. 7665 issued 7/9/1790 to Nicholas Fish, assignee. No papers in the file. J
    AMES [JACOBUS] ROSE. N.Y. Esther Kylefuss (former widow). W16321. Married Esther Bian, she m. 2nd, Jacob Kylefuss, 2 ch. mentioned including Joseph. Brother Benjamin rose lived Ulster Co., NY.
    JAMES ROSE. N.Y. widow Elizabeth. W24792. BLWt 36521 160. Married Elizabeth Cline in New York City, lived Rockland ŠCo., NY, widow lived Ontario Co., NY, mentions dau. Eve Shirley.
    JAMES ROSE. Va. widow Rebecca. W27533. BLWt 6439-160-55. Married [2nd] Rebecca Phippses, she recd pension also for former husband Isaac Durham. Lived Russell, King George, Prince William and Grayson Cos., VA, also TN. [Declaration filed Wilkes Co., NC not part of this file but recorded in the county shows previos wife Mary Ann aged about 100 in 1824 and great grandson John.]
    JESSE ROSE. Va. S35634. Lived Harrison Co., KY.
    JESSE ROSE. Va. R9002. Drafted Berkeley Co., VA, lived Mahoning Co., OH.
    JOANNA ROSE, former widow of ABRAHAM WILSON. W5714; BLWt. 318-60- 55. She m. 2nd, Washington Co., NY, to PHILIP ROSE. Son Isaac Rose. Widow lived Madison Co., NY, Washington Co., NY. (This claim is under her 1st husband.)
    JOHN ROSE. BLWt 1804-400. Surgeon. Issued Feb. 24, 1797. Conn. Papers missing; destroyed.
    JOHN ROSE. S43967 BTWt 1584-150. Continental. Conn. Married Kathy, enl. Litchfield Co., CT, lived Broome Co., NY, mentions son Salmon M. Rose who lived Chenango Co., NY and dau. Sarepta. [Other documents name his other children.]
    JOHN ROSE. R9004. Mass. Sea Service. Lived Kennebec Co., ME. brother Benjamin Rose, son George Rose of Somerset Co., ME mentioned.
    JOHN ROSE. BLWt. 8659 and 8668. Priv. N.J. Issued Aug. 10, 1792. No papers; destroyed.
    JOHN ROSE. BLWt. 8674. Priv. N.J. Issued ŠApr. 21, 1791. No papers; destroyed.
    JOHN ROSE. S4787. N.J. Born Morris Co., NJ, Šlived Hamilton Co., OH.
    JOHN ROSE. N.Y. S43940. widow Nancy. Lived Schnectedy, Albany and Rensselaer Cos., NY.
    JOHN ROSE. N.C. widow Rachel. N.C. W18824. Married Rachel Sparks, he was born Southampton Co., VA, lived Wilkes and Surry Cos., NC, brother Sterling Rose mentioned. Includes Bible records, ch. Ann, Milley, Pathance, Rachel, William, John, Elazebeth, Hose and Thomas.
    JOHN ROSE. Pa. BLWt 1029-300. See Gustavus H. Henderson. No papers. See: Heitman's Historical Register, p. 474, John Rose, which states that his proper name was Baron Gustavus H. de Rosenthal. Appointed Surgeon's Mate under name of Gustavus Henderson.
    JOHN ROSE. Pa. BLWt. 1825-200. Lt., Issued May 18, 1789 to William Irvine, Esq. his attorney. Papers missing.
    JOHN ROSE. Pa. 1786-1787-1788. R9006. Born Š1760 Rockaway River, East Jersey, lived Jefferson Co., KY and Monongahela river, VA near Washington's Bottom.
    JOHN ROSE. Va. R9008. Lived Princess Anne Co., VA, ch. Nancy, John, Jane.
    JONATHAN ROSE. widow Hannah. Conn. W26395. BLWt. 12565 160 55. Married Hannah Rose, lived New Haven Co., CT.
    JOSEPH ROSE. Mass. S23400. Born Hampshire Co., MA, lived Bennington Co., VT and Chenango Co., NY.
    JUSTUS ROSE. Mass. R9007. Lived Hampden Co., MA, brothers mentioned: Timothy and Samuel Rose.
    LEMUEL ROSE. widow Achsah. Mass. W5715. Married Achsah, lived Licking co., OH. Hiram Rose made an affidavit.
    LEMUEL ROSE. widow Amy. N.Y. W22115. married Amy Wicks, he was born Suffolk Co., NY, son Phinehas Rose mentioned.
    LEVI ROSE. widow Mary. Conn. W22114. Married Mary Page, lived New Haven Co., CT. Son James Rose mentioned.
    LEVI ROSE. Mass. S33594. Lived Granville, MA, son Silas Rose mentioned. Abner Rose made an affidavit.
    MATTHIAS ROSE. S17053. Lived St. Louis Co., KY and KY. Mentions brother in service [name not given but known to be Capt. Lewis Rose of Mercer Co., KY].
    NATHANIEL ROSE. W24783. Privateer. Married ŠPolly, he was born Taunton, MA, lived Bristol Co., MA.
    PELEG ROSE. W22120. Married Mary, lived New London Co., CT. Bible record ch. Russell, James, Asa, Sarah, Peleg, Dorastus, Mary, Samuel, Elizabeth, James, Elexander, and others mentioned. Dr. Prosper Rose, brother.
    PETER ROSE. R3244. Married Esther Barnard, she m. 2nd Roswell harris, 3rd Geo. Edmond. Married Fairfield Co., CT, he was s/o William, ch. mentioned, William of Litchfield Co., CT, Sally Atherton (latter mentions aunt Charity Rose).
    PETER ROSE. S19065.
    PHILLIP ROSE. W58. Married Sarah, born King William Co., VA, lived Guilford and Rockingham Cos., NC, widow lived Perry Co., TN, ch. mentioned, Hugh, Mary H., Milly, but evidently not a complete list.
    PROSPER ROSE. S35. Born New LondonCo., CT. [See also file of Peleg Rose.]
    RICHARD ROSE. W11187. VA. Cont. BLWt 75111-160-55. Married [2nd] Mary Morris, lived Scott Co., IN, Adams Co., IN, Hancock Co., IL., Washington Co., IN.
    RICHARD ROSE. S33603. Lived Burlington Co., NJ, mentions ch. William, Charles, Israel, Samuel, Mary Ann, Susan.
    ROBERT ROSE. BLWt. 1855-400. Military papers only in this file.
    RUSSEL ROSE. W5818. BLWt. 7064-60-55. SAMUEL ROSE. R9011. Conn. Born Coventry, CT, lived Steuben, Cayuga and Seneca Cos., NY.
    SAMUEL ROSE. Mary. W7141. B.L.Wt. 33572-160-55. Married Mary Weist, lived Macon Co., NC, widow lived Rutherford Co., NC.
    STERLING ROSE. S4132. N.C. Married Nancy, born King & Queen Co., VA, lived Wilkes and Surry Cos., NC. [See file of John Rose W18854.]
    THOMAS ROSE. W24778. widow Eunice. Mass., N.H. Married Eunice Newton, lived Windham Co., VT. Beautiful Bible record, ch. Emilia, Tartius, Gaius, Greorge, Thomas Newton, Eunice, Celina, Laverna, Levi, Lucy. He was born Montague, MA, lived Deerfield, MA and Guilford, CT.
    THOMAS ROSE. Mass. S30069. Mass. Privateer. Son of Thos. and Prudence Rose, born Bristol Co., MA. Mentions brother Nathaniel Rose.
    TIMOTHY ROSE. Lydia Dickinson (former widow). W7025. Mass. Married Lydia Munson, she m. 2nd a Dickinson, Bible record Šincl. ch. Clarissa, Samantha, Lovisa, Lydia, Timothy M., Samuel H., Almena, and other family records shown.
    TIMOTHY ROSE. W87. widow Phebe. Married Phebe Rolfe, lived Middlesex Co., NJ.
    WILLIAM ROSE. S11324. Born Canaan, Litchfield Co., CT, lived Broome Co., NY.
    WILLIAM ROSE. W18832. married Elizabeth Wilmeth, lived Middlesex Co., NJ, widow lived New York City.
    WILLIAM ROSE. W9628. widow Mary. Married Mary, enl. Prince William Co., VA, m. in Fauquier co., VA, lived floyd Co., IN, Clay Co., MO. Son jeremiah Rose and brother Jesse Rose mentioned.
    WILLIAM ROSE. #8554. wife Elizabeth. N.C. Widow Elizabeth. Married Elizabeth Merritt; b orn Granville co., NC, had 10 ch., mentions Wm., Hutson, Christina, Ann, Ephraim. lived Pendleton Co., SC, Powell Valley [Tenn.], Whitley Co., KY.
    WINTHROP ROSE. Conn. S43968. Enl. in Litchfield, CT, lived Broome Co., NY, had six children, not named.
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    Samuel Rose was born in Granville, Hampden County, Massachusetts on 1 March 1817. He was raised on a farm and when about nine he removed to Simsbury, Connecticut near the city of Hartford. The next year they removed to Attica, Genesee County, New York. In 1836 Samuel began his career in Michican, in Jackson County. He joined a friend and they went to Ionia, and then made their way to Grand Rapids in a canoe on the Grand River. Later he removed to Newaygo County. In 1852 he secured some land in section 22 township 12 range 13. He spent many years in Newago County, and was "the revered oracle of the community...the referee as to dates and events along the whole line of the Muskegon. He [knew] every man's history...he has probably witnessed Šas great a change in the face of the country, in the methods of business and in the social and domestic manners of the people, as any man has ever seen in this pioneer country..."

    Note: Samuel Rose in the biography (see citation following) is said to have a mother (name not given) who was born 13 June 1796. She was in 1884 living in Beaver Dam, Dodge County, Wisconsin. He was likely a descendant of Robert and Margery Rose who sailed from Ipswich, England in 1634 for Connecticut, and whose descendants lived in Hampden County, Massachusetts. Does anyone identify him?

    See: Portrait and Biopgraphical Album of Newago County, Michigan, (Chicago: Chapman Bros., 1884), pp. 423-425.

     

    Caroline Matilda Jordan (Rose) McDonald was born 24 July 1833 in Georgia, and died 12 December 1880 in Ranger, Eastland County, Texas. She is buried there in the Pioneer Cemetery. She married 28 November Š1850 in Barbour County, Alabama, to Redin Burkhalter McDonald who died 21 March 1901 and is buried with his wife. Caroline was a daughter of Dr. Hugh F. and Elizabeth (Robertson) Rose of Virginia and Putnam County, Georgia, and a granddaughter of Col. Hugh Rose of Amherst County, Virginia. The latter was a son of the well-known Rev. Robert Rose of Morayshire, Scotland and Colonial Virginia. Rev. Robert, a prominent minister, was born 12 February 1703/4 in Wester Alves, Scotland, son of John and Margaret (Grant) Rose. He came to Virginia ca 1725, and was minister first at St. Anne's Parish in Essex County, and later in Albemarle County. He died 30 June 1751, and is buried in St. John's Churchyard in Richmond, Virginia, the first person to be buried in this historic churchyard. This family are direct descendants of the Rose of Kilravock, Scotland through Hugh, 8th of Kilravock. (See Christine Rose, Ancestors and Descendants of The Brothers Rev. Robert Rose and Rev. Charles Rose of Colonial Virginia and Wester Alves, Morayshire, Scotland, (San Jose, Calif.: Braun-Brumfield, 1985), pp. 17-37, 107-108, 181-182. (Photo from a charcoal provided by E. Perry.)

    Elza H. Rose was born January 1797, and died died 11 March 1838. He married Ellen Buckner Sullivan. Elza was a son of Matthias and Nancy Š(Hickman) Rose of Jefferson County, Kentucky and St. Louis County. His father Matthias (born to Gottlieb and Barbara Rose), was baptized in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Frederick, Frederick County, Maryland. (Matthias was a revolutionary soldier and pensioner.)
    The origin of the family is substantiated by a letter (see reference below) dated in 1849 written by Robert B. McAfee to Lyman Draper. In this letter dated at Harrodsburg, Ky. January 18th, 1849, he states, "...I have now before me a sketch of Mr Roses life written by myself from his own mouth a few weeks before his death He [Lewis Rose, brother of Matthias Rose] was born the 11th day of October 1749, in a small village near the City of 'Bingen; on the River Rhine in one of the Palatinites of Germany, his father Cudhoff or 'Godlove' and Barbary Rose were members of the Lutheran Church and were respectable & industrious citizens & his father and Grandfather were Iron Founderers, and in consequence of the peace of 1763, Their business having declined They Removed to this Šcountry in 1764 and landed at Alexandria (Va) near where Washington City now is & in 1765 his father removed to Guents [Grants?] Iron works in Frederic county Maryland, and in 1770 removed into Bedford county Pennsylvania where he bought a tract of Land & commenced farming here on the 31st March 1772 Lewis Rose married Miss Barbary Trair (or Frair) a German lady and in 1777 & 8 served several Tours with the Pennsylvania Militia in the Revolutionary war and in 1779 in the spring he came to Kentucky and aided in raising a crop of corn in the Town of Harrodsburgh ... "

    Judge Elza Rose had two children: 1) Matthias Dan born ca 1825, to Colorado during the Pike's Peak Rush, returned to Florrisant, Mo., probably died unmarried; and 2) Lucy Ellen born ca 1828, lived Florrisant, Mo.

    See:
    Letter dated 10 January 1849, from Robert B. McAfee to Lyman Draper (Draper MSS. #4CC 87-88, Library of University of Wisconsin).
    Missouri Republican 22 March 1838
    Missouri Republican 27 July 1863
    Original letters and photos at the Audrian County Historical Society, Missouri.
    Christine Rose, Descendants of Capt. Lewis, Matthias and Martin Rose, sons of Gottlieb Rose of Germany and Kentucky, (San Jose: priv. printed, 1977).

    Photo provided by John S. McCormick from a daguerrotype he donated to the Audrain County Historical Society, Missouri.


    William Rose was a native of Ohio, born 22 March 1816 in Guernsey County, to William and Susan (Dollard) Rose. His parents had: Thomas, Reuben, William, Uriah, Robert, Elihu, George, Jane and Eliza. In the early days, William was a boatman on the Ohio River, Šand about 1830 he located in Clermont County, Ohio where he married at a young age, on 31 December 1831, to Miss Anna Linn. He and his wife left Ohio, and in 1836 went to Illinois. He made a purchase eventually of two farms in McDonough County, and also owned a tract in Wayne County, Iowa. They were members of the United Brethren Church. This information was taken from Portrait and Biographical Review of Fulton County, Illinois, (Chicago: Biographical Publ. Co., 1890), p. 535-536, as was the photo. Other research shows that his father and mother, i.e. William and Susan, married in Bedford County, Virginia, where the marriage is recorded. William (the father) was likely the son of Thomas Rose, a revolutionary soldier of Bedford County.